Hard to estimate when we have no idea where dropships will be. Buff AV but leave DS survivability as is and you will place the final nail in our flying coffins

A forge damage or RoF boost would be troublesome as well without buffing hp to compensate. Forge vs DS is possibly the most balanced part of this game right now. PLC RoF buff is totally acceptable though

As an AV Incubus pilot I always forget about standard dropships since any and all fits melts well before they can retreat or retaliate. Honestly, if a standard ship is being useful -at all- then its taking two players, so you should be happy with the free WP and knowledge that youre preventing two players from doing anything meaningful.

Standard ships should stay sluggish and tanky, giving them more mobility wll just step on the feet of ADS and buff suicide dropships in the process.

I hear you loud and clear man, and I agree. Simply offering up a word of caution to keep my beloved babies from fading into obscurity.

Buff AV again? Why? Are you insane?

AV doesn't need any more buffs. They've had enough.

amarr laser cannon? hybrid of laser and plasma cannon? very quick to overheat laser with 200+ damage per second? or maybe less.

I still think they should impliment a Scrambler rifle-like weapon that's charge shot only, fires like an Assault Forge Gun but it's a light weapon and EM profile.

Buff any AV and you will harm Dropships. You do realize forge guns hurt them really
badly as is, right?

But you did bro. You want faster firing speed, which is a DPS buff.

Not the same no, but it will most certainly effect dropships as well, giving skilled forge gunners an upper hand in what is typically a very balanced engagement.

How would being able to land more shots before they can retreat from your range or find cover NOT lend an advantage to the forge gun?

How is that in any way an opinion?

O.o

I have never, and will never say that PLC doesnt need some more love, at least not till it receives it.

Breach forge gun, ive always felt that was the team variant, as its borderline OP when paired with any other form of AV from basic on up.

IAFG is beautifully balanced, period.

Standard forge guns could maybe use a small RoF and or damage buff, but I mean, even if they got it, who would use it? Buff either too much and the IAFG loses its appeal, dont buff it enough and its a pointless buff. Im inclined to say Forge guns are the most balanced weapon in this game, and only "suffer" because theyre weak vs shield, and we have virtually no anti shield AV still.

I domt involve myself with numbers because thats not my strong point, and im not going to offer up discussion on that topic until its actually on the table, in front of me. Too many empty promises to put my faith there again.

And im not "bitching", im simply concerned that AV will be buffed to handle new tanks, while every single other vehicle gets brutally raped into the ground until CCP gets around to giving them a similar overhaul.

Hopefully Dropships will be next (LAvs after that, they're less critical) but your concerns are valid. Sadly I will not be able to do **** for dropships as I don't use them like...at all, so try to remain engaged in the conversation when it comes. You're probably one of the most knowledgeable dropship pilots I know, so please be involved so it gets done right.

To be perfectly honest, im actually sort of against increasing dropship mobility, as ill probably never die to forge guns ever again haha. I would love to see 2% resitance to armor (incubus) and 2% resistance to shield (python) added per level to their respective skills, without applying stacking penalty. That change alone could go a long way towards keeping dropships balanced in the face of new AV.

Im also STRONGLY in favor of weaker hulls with more fitting capacity for ALL vehicles, since vehicle fits are painfully boring right now.

Ive gotten most of my knee jerk reactions out over the past few years, but I AM manic depressive bi polar so I am prone to lashing out emotionally before ive had time to properly test and consider things. Which is why im PUMPED to be able to record again soon, it really helps with analysis.

I just want a 2/3 - 3/2 layout with either a slight buff to hp, or my propsed native resists. That could open up so many fitting options for us.